Nov 11, 2006, 08:20 PM // 20:20
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#21
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Banned
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Good question
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Its not something to worry about really. It's nothing /resign cant fix real quick. Bots are good for pve and everything, but when it comes to pvp theres a large difference between ai and a human brain. I coulda beat that group by using vocal minority, suffering, winter, gaze of contempt, with sf eles. And do you have any proof of this botting in ha? That might u know help...
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Nov 11, 2006, 09:52 PM // 21:52
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#22
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Newport Ky
Guild: Order Of Fallen Angels
Profession: Mo/Me
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Originally Posted by Nurse With Wound
Playing heroway will teach you anythything, you will still suck badly like pve'er in pvp. People like you will NEVER play in my teams. Luckily they are guild or friendlist only, so I can avoid heroway loosers like you. Also, rank doesnt mean anything, If no one knows you ( and no one knows you, because you're playing with heroes ), you still wont find a good team, no matter of your rank lol. Have fun in your singleplayer environement.
I think the OP might be right. We all know there are some faction farming bots in RA, so now when the heroes and henches can do the whole job of wiping out the other heroes and henchmen it is entirely possible that some use bots to farm fame and faction this way... But I doubt someone in anet seriously cares - the DYE PROBLEM IS SO RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOING IMPORTANT.
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Someone woke up on the wrong side of her rock today ....
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Nov 11, 2006, 10:37 PM // 22:37
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#23
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jan 2006
Guild: I Immortal Kings I [ImK]
Profession: Mo/Me
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Originally Posted by Nurse With Wound
Yeah HA is utter crap, I've moved to gvg entirely. CBA to farm bots for meaningless emotes, not my style of gameplay.
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Pfft, bullcrap Were those PMs to play HA fake then Nurse?! Were you just jerking my feelings around?!
Uh ... yea, another topic proving that HA is total and utter crap. Pretty soon HA ID1 will look like Elona's Reach and Augury Rock did, back in the day ... a whole lot of bots.
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Originally Posted by SlipknotOFA
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No. That's actually pretty mild compared to how most of us (HAers/former HAers) feel.
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Nov 12, 2006, 12:46 AM // 00:46
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#24
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Banned
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Originally Posted by jull
...With this new revolutionary stupid idea of Heroes into Ha we first began to see unranked peoples alone beating rank6+ team at hall....
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i didnt say it. you said it.
and playing a good heroway means you micro your heroes well. you know when to keepem safe or who to attack or whatever. one man heroway team is like bloodspike or ranger spike, where the caller is the only skilled one.
and Spirit_Axery is right. Who will take a rank 0 player anyway? you guys buy a new account and try to find group as a "noob rank 0" and ill give you a cookie when someone takes you. go go go heroway.
Last edited by tomcruisejr; Nov 12, 2006 at 01:08 AM // 01:08..
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Nov 12, 2006, 02:02 AM // 02:02
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#25
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None More Negative
Join Date: May 2006
Guild: Steel Phoenix [StP]
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Originally Posted by tomcruisejr
and Spirit_Axery is right. Who will take a rank 0 player anyway? you guys buy a new account and try to find group as a "noob rank 0" and ill give you a cookie when someone takes you. go go go heroway.
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No problem. You know why? Because i got friendlist, and my guild. I can socialize with other people. If I would sell my ranked account on ebay and buy new, rank zero that wouldnt change anything. Because its not about rank, but how good you are at making friends. I think you're experienced enough to know this.
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Nov 12, 2006, 02:06 AM // 02:06
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#27
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None More Negative
Join Date: May 2006
Guild: Steel Phoenix [StP]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bread Fan
Yeah it would because you wouldn't have any skills unlocked
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I could unlock the skills I need to play monk and mesmer in one hour using premades. But seriosuly this isnt about me doh.... its about Heroway and loosers who cant socialize with other people and thats why they cant find a team, not because of rank..... Because for every pvp player its clear that rank doesnt equal skill, thanks to iway, bloodspike and other gimmick builds. Rank its worthless, just numbers...
Ranked pugs usually fail. Teams that succeed are friendlist groups and guild groups. Everyone knows that. And you're not gonna make a lot of friends when you run heroway. You will still fail and suck no matter how much fame you farmed on other heroways...
Last edited by Nurse With Wound; Nov 12, 2006 at 02:13 AM // 02:13..
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Nov 12, 2006, 02:27 AM // 02:27
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#28
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Seattle
Guild: SPQR
Profession: N/R
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Heroways are not unbeatable.
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Nov 12, 2006, 02:44 AM // 02:44
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#29
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None More Negative
Join Date: May 2006
Guild: Steel Phoenix [StP]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Diablo™
Heroways are not unbeatable.
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Seriously, wth? Have you read the other posts in the thread at all? Do you know what we're discussing here?
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Nov 12, 2006, 03:16 AM // 03:16
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#30
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Wales
Guild: Steel Phoenix
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Well me and a guildie ran a build yesterday with 3 bonders, a full warder and 2 healers, we came up against one of those paragon lame things and went afk for a couple of hours and the paragons were still there bashing on us, the whole game lasted 182min, so its pretty easy to afk matches and still win, aslong as you use heros they keep you alive, the other team of full humans doesnt have that luxury and can be picked off while they go AFK :P
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Nov 12, 2006, 03:24 AM // 03:24
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#31
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: YoUr MinD
Guild: Team U S A World Police [PoPo]
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HA is the harshly beaten step-sister to GvG, that has always been infested with lice, i.e. retards, lamers, noobs, and now NPCS rofl. All of you complaining about having to play NPCS in an area where you get self-benefit that actually over time, supposedly, makes you better! Your real problem is that you HA.
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Nov 12, 2006, 03:32 AM // 03:32
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#32
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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Perhaps you could take into consideration that a lot of us HA when GvG is unavailable due to lack of guild members? But thanks for the smart ass post.
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Nov 12, 2006, 03:38 AM // 03:38
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#33
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None More Negative
Join Date: May 2006
Guild: Steel Phoenix [StP]
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nevermind, isnt worth the flame.
Last edited by Nurse With Wound; Nov 12, 2006 at 04:02 AM // 04:02..
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Nov 12, 2006, 04:51 AM // 04:51
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#34
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Forge Runner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jull
Anyone, (unranked to rank12) can get a macro, a defensive build like 2Rt 2p 2m or 3m and 3p whatever and let his computer turn 1week with a simple macro. I really doubt any "normal" builds will have enough power to get them down so what happen...6 guys will have to resign even rank12 pple, and this asshole will win.
Now get this and multiply it by thousands guys who will want to “farm” Ha using bots and it will be a nightmare.
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Um, that's gotta be a pretty damn complicated "macro". I think he'd have to write an AI better than anet's and somehow attach it to GW to farm HA with bots.
Strategies for different maps? Target priority? Positioning, movement in general? Relic runs? Proper hex/condition removal? Heroes left alone to themselves can't keep a ghost alive for 30 seconds, how do you expect them to win games?
I don't see an ordinary script being able to do anything other than beat zaishen, play UW (success rate may vary) and /resign out of broken tower. Your claim is ridiculous.
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Nov 12, 2006, 06:23 AM // 06:23
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#35
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Banned
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Good question
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alleji
Um, that's gotta be a pretty damn complicated "macro". I think he'd have to write an AI better than anet's and somehow attach it to GW to farm HA with bots.
Strategies for different maps? Target priority? Positioning, movement in general? Relic runs? Proper hex/condition removal? Heroes left alone to themselves can't keep a ghost alive for 30 seconds, how do you expect them to win games?
I don't see an ordinary script being able to do anything other than beat zaishen, play UW (success rate may vary) and /resign out of broken tower. Your claim is ridiculous.
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Exactly why i said do u got any proof?
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Nov 12, 2006, 06:31 AM // 06:31
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#36
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Mar 2006
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tomcruisejr
and Spirit_Axery is right. Who will take a rank 0 player anyway? you guys buy a new account and try to find group as a "noob rank 0" and ill give you a cookie when someone takes you. go go go heroway.
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I'm gonna assume you mean without our current friends list and guild lists too (unlike what nurse posted although still a good post). I admit, that in HAs current state, yes it would be impossible to get r3 w/o heroes. However, bring back the HA population before heroes (no one wants to play this AI bot farming crap anymore) or even better the HA population when it was 8v8 and I could definately do it, w/o fame farming builds too if you wanted... Join unranked groups if any are forming. Friends list anyone in that group that had a clue what was going on. If no groups forming, form my own and of course friends list anyone that had a clue what they were doing. Eventually form my own group from full friends list. Should be able to win a few matches now since these are the better unranked players and then what do you know eventually we got 180 fame. Also if I see any unranked HA guilds recruiting I join those cuz they can help too sometimes.
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Nov 12, 2006, 11:23 AM // 11:23
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#37
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Re:tired
Join Date: Nov 2005
Profession: W/
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Old news.
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